Tuesday, December 20, 2011

GCOTD: Ron Paul

Now that he's apparently in the lead in Iowa, I guess I might as well pass this along:
The thing most wrong with present-day Republicanism is its passivity in the face of the economic crisis, its indifference to the economic troubles of the huge majority of the American population, and its blithe insistence that everything was fine for the typical American worker up until Inauguration Day 2009 or (at the outer bound of the thinkable) the financial crisis of the fall 2008.

It is the lack of concern to the travails of middle-class America that “reform Republicans” should most centrally be concerned with.

And no candidate in this race–ok, except maybe the defunct Herman Cain–has been more persistently, aggressively, and forcefully heedless of those travails than Ron Paul.

Everything else that’s wrong with Paul–the paranoia, the crank theories–exists as an adjunct to this first prime fault. And the success of Paul in winning a boutique audience for his message has driven the rest of the field to mimic his crank monetary theories. In the midst of the worst crisis since the 1930s, the one thing that all the current and former first-tier candidates have agreed upon (even Mitt Romney!) is the need for tighter money and higher interest rates. That should seem obviously nuts, and not in a theoretical or marginal way that denying evolution is nuts. The press for tighter money and higher interest rates now is the kind of nutty thing that a government can actually do--and that would inflict severe, immediate real-world harm on the US and world economy.

To illustrate Frum's point about economics a little further, gold has gone through the roof in the last few years as people have fled to investments that they see as safe. Now imagine how tough it would be to come up with your mortgage payment if we were still on the gold standard and coming up with money essentially meant coming up with some of that rare and suddenly extremely high-priced commodity. It's not hard to see how economic activity would slow even further if the recession-induced demand for money were exacerbated by the run-up in gold prices.

There are definitely some things I appreciate about Paul - particularly his willingness to ask much-needed tough questions about civil liberties and our foreign policy goals.

Aside from economics, after reading his positions I was surprised to see some right-wing social policy in there. For example, I would have thought standing up for same-sex marriage would be a no-brainer for a principled libertarian-ish type. Apparently not.

If you want a good libertarian candidate, try former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, who is sort of the shit. Too bad the Republican establishment kept him from ever getting attention in this Presidential race.

7 comments:

  1. Yup, dudes a bama. Agreed with your assessment on facebook and sgree with it in the den.

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  2. Yup, dudes a bama. Agreed with your assessment on facebook and sgree with it in the den.

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  3. "For if the problem is that collectively people want to hold more money than there is in circulation, why not simply increase the supply of money? You may tell me that it's not that simple, that during the previous boom businessmen made bad investments and banks made bad loans. Well, fine. Junk the bad investments and write off the bad loans. Why should this require that perfectly good productive capacity be left idle?
    The hangover theory, then, turns out to be intellectually incoherent; nobody has managed to explain why bad investments in the past require the unemployment of good workers in the present. Yet the theory has powerful emotional appeal. Usually that appeal is strongest for conservatives, who can't stand the thought that positive action by governments (let alone—horrors!—printing money) can ever be a good idea."

    Are you serious??? Intellectually incoherent? Pot calling the kettle black...........takes one to know one...............

    How about this killer synopsis: "the economy really needs is to take the easy way out"???

    Is this for real??? Is he serious about this being a valid solution??? A little bit of folk wisdom might be in order here.

    The statement about the gold standard and making a mortgage payment is utter nonsense by the way. I think it is rather obvious you have some fundamental/major misunderstanding of how such a system might work. But it is pointless to argue about such things at this point in time seeing as any monetary system even slightly resembling a gold standard is ancient history.

    Fun little fact: I don't have a mortgage payment so why would I need to worry about that anyhows? Any person who can tie their shoes and swing a hammer can build a small house (one they can afford, that is the key here) on the wages they earn over the course of one fiscal year. Mortgage huh? Whats that??? But if , if , if I did have a mortgage I am pretty sure the bank would be happy to accept any of my gold coins as a payment and if they did not I could simply exchange those coins for paper money and make the payment that a way....................

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  4. The point about the mortgage is that, were the money supply fixed - as Mr. Paul apparently wants - then a recession, when demand for cash is high, would cause the value of the currency to go way up. This is great for people holding the currency, but terrible for liquidity, and ultimately, the economy as a whole. It's totally fine if people want to drive up the price of some other nominally safe investment during difficult financial times but pretty terrible if that investment happens to be the currency that underlies all of the transactions that make up the economy.

    That's admirable that you built a house - aside from the satisfaction of doing so, you saved yourself a whole lot of money. Good for you. Of course, I'm also assuming that you didn't chop down the trees, mill the boards, forge the nails, and dig the materials for concrete out of the ground, so you presumably needed some money to do it. Fortunately for you, other people decided to pay you to drive their kids to school rather than doing it themselves so that you had a paycheck to buy the materials. Our economic system is neat like that.

    Ron Paul is still a serious clone, by the way. Read up on Gary Johnson so you don't feel the need to defend this clown anymore.

    Side note: You ever catch fish to eat? If so, Merry Christmas to you from Mr. Obama: In the future, you'll be eating less mercury when you do so!

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  5. You must have missed this sentence from your very own link: "The notion that he will be the Republican nominee is too absurd to spend a moment contemplating."

    If you believe your bit about, "This is great for people holding the currency, but terrible for liquidity, and ultimately, the economy as a whole. It's totally fine if people want to drive up the price of some other nominally safe investment during difficult financial times but pretty terrible if that investment happens to be the currency that underlies all of the transactions that make up the economy.", then shit man what am I supposed to say? When you say it is great for people holding the currency you mean people who save money. What you propose is to penalize thrifty people who actually know the value of a dollar and the value of hardwork and reward people who spend like monkeys and make the economy go go go. Upwards and onwards. Penalizing people who save is not very wise to me.......

    As for the house I did not chop down the trees, mill the boards or forge the nails, but for the next house (in planning stages, maybe 2-3 years till completion) I will be doing those things. Well I won't forge the nails or use concrete, but the first two are easy enough.

    Not sure if I am supposed to be impressed that the economy "is neat like that." Staples like lumber, tools, flour, wheat, grain, etc have been available in our economy for a long long (hundreds of years even?) time. The only thing our modern economy has got over the economy of old is fancy digital gadgets and things made of plastic. Of and if you want it can be delivered tomorrow, to your doorstep.
    So yeah, neat, I guess, plastic shit delivered fast. Ahhh but I kid.......

    And yes it is fortunate I had job driving a bus, but there are always jobs out there for people who are not afraid to work hard and actually produce or provide a valuable service. I have never had that much trouble finding a job. But our economic system does not provide the jobs so much as that is just the ways things are and have been for a very long time. There is always work to do. Every one has got a price.

    Anyways Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Obama, I don't give a fuck. At this point I'll vote, but I am not invested emotionally in any way. Can't hold out much hope in this day and age, but maybe who knows. Won't comment on the mercury except to say finally. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that mercury is not good.

    I won't defend Ron Paul except I do agree (for the most part) with his monetary policies. But then again I refer you to the first quote above: "The notion that he will be the Republican nominee is too absurd to spend a moment contemplating." (But my fingers are crossed)

    Merry Consumers Day!

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  6. I don't know much about freakonomics, but I do know that Ron Paul makes the most sense of any kook the Good Ol' Party throws at us. I believed in Barack Gon' Bombya, but he seems to be playing exactly into the enemies' hands. I know there's a congressional process in his way, but I don't have much faith in politics. What I do have faith in is the fact that we're in for some expensive fucking gas and the puppet in D.C. won't matter too much.

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  7. That showdown with Iran is coming sooner or later, no doubt. And, no, gas ain't getting no cheaper.

    B Gon' Bombya knows better than to bite the hand that feeds 'em.

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